Atalanta (1939) — Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination

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Atalanta (1939) — Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination

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On the weather page, please enter: date, locations, distances (nautical miles and tenths), courses, and all the weather data in the columns outlined in red in the spreadsheet.
It is not necessary to record State of the Sea.
However, ice mentioned in the weather grid should be transcribed using the magenta Sea column.

On the events page please enter: ice, location information, and sailing information.
Aurorae, volcanic, and seismic activity should be reported in the forum.
The names of US Navy and Coast Guard ships met should be noted. This gives the science team a chance to compare weather readings. You can include all ships mentioned in a single entry without a time or any additional data.
Other events are optional.

One person can do both weather and events (Stream 1), but the system also allows one person to do the weather page (Stream 1) and a second person to do the events page (Stream 3).
Unlike in OW3, where three transcriptions were required for each page, we are doing only one transcription per page.

Every transcriber needs to enter the date.
The date is used to organize the pages.



See Atalanta — General for some general background and discussion.
See Atalanta — Examples for a quick introduction to transcribing or a refresher.

See Transcribing Guide to learn how to transcribe the data.
Post in Ask Questions Here or this topic if you have questions.

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I'll claim June 1939 if available.

I already started on it but may need to start over unless there is a way to open a written/saved file to make edits. Fortunately, I hadn't got very far.

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It's yours and welcome on board!

You can edit an xml file, but I don't recommend it unless you are familiar with the file format.
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:) :) :)
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In updating the Tracker, specifically for the Cutter Atalanta, 1939 where there are separate weather and event pages, I assume that the completed weather page would have as completion codes D, L, C and W for date, lat/long positions, hourly sailing distance/courses, and weather. Correct? For the event page, I would have D and S (if underway). But would I include L for positions given such as “Mary Island Light abeam to port, dist 5 mi”? And would anchoring, docking, getting underway be included under S or E? Are encounters with other CG or Navy ships be considered under E? And can I subsequently correct earlier entries that I made in the tracking spreadsheet?
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You don't need to worry too much about the exact details. We just need a general idea.
The trackers were developed to accommodate multiple people working on one ship and the transcribing system has evolved over time, so now some choices are not clear.

I assume that the completed weather page would have as completion codes D, L, C and W for date, lat/long positions, hourly sailing distance/courses, and weather. Correct?
Yes.

For the event page,
I would advise using S for anything entered with type Sailing Info and
E for encounters with other CG or Navy ships.

Yes, you can go back and make corrections if you want to, but it probably isn't necessary.



Be sure to fill in your name for the remaining months so we can see that they are claimed ;)
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What's the practice for uploading files? By each completed month? Several months? Year? Or just whenever?

Should I be keeping my uploaded XML files?
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It's up to you. You can only upload ten files at a time (a google restriction), but whatever works for you is fine with us. I don't do anything with the files until the entire year is done and uploaded. When Hanibal finishes a month, he zips the files and gives the zipped file a name like: Kearsarge-March-1876. That works for me, too.

Most people keep a copy on their hard-drive just in case something happens to a file on the way to the Google Drive. ;)
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I uploaded 20 files (2 batches) for the first 10 days of July 1939 and updated the Tracker. If you see anything that I did incorrectly or that I should do differently. Thanks! -Jack- :)
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Good to have you back!

I'll have a look and send you a PM.
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The National Archives changed the page links, so once you finish the pages you had already downloaded you will need to download the new version of the spreadsheet.
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Where can I find the updated spreadsheet. The spreadsheet above is for 1943-1945. :)
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Never mind - I found out it! And to think I just had an eye exam last week :oops:
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:D
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Been there, done that, and still doing it, too!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Started at 11 JULY 1939

You have got to love these 4hr logs when in port. :D :D :D
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:D :D :D
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Now here is an old treatment.
Ship Doc went ashore to treat native patients.
When back on ship he reported he received blood in left eye while working with patients.
Only treatment available was yellow mercury ointment to eye by Mr Sands.
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From: Pharmacopoeia of the Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh, By Andrew King, 1908

Figure 5: Formulation of Pagenstecher’s Ointment.
A corneal ulcer has always been regarded as an ophthalmic emergency. In 1908 we find it being treated by the intriguing ‘Pagenstecher’s Ointment’. The formulation of this ointment is shown in Figure 5. It is noted that the same ointment was being used to treat blepharitis.



From: JAMA Network Home
January 7, 1933
OINTMENT OF YELLOW MERCURIC OXIDE (PAGENSTECHER'S OINTMENT) ITS USE AND ABUSE

Abstract

How did yellow oxide of mercury salve—fine old panacea for all the ills of the eye and adjacent anatomic structures, known to every physician, surgeon, specialist, nurse, optician, housewife and grandmother—obtain its undisputed place in the pharmacopeia and in the hearts of our ailing countrymen? Introduced into ophthalmology for one specific and minor purpose, how did it become a universal cure-all? Long ago abandoned by most experts, why does it tower above the one other preparation embalmed in the memories of generations of medical students and share its place only with a bastard silver agglomeration as "something good for the eyes?"

Library and laboratory research, contemplation and questionnaires fail to reveal the answers to these questions, but the phenomenon is worthy of consideration and the history of the salve is interesting.


More at: https://www.deepdyve.com/lp/american-me ... LgPEwA6O4b
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Nothing slips by our "Eagle eyed" Randi. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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