Lost overboard by an idiot... (...or any other reason!)

[espross]

Crumbs!

[Michael]

[espross]

USS Shenandoah, at anchor Coquimbo Chili [sic], Friday, January 15, 1886:

At 9.30 a board of survey met on board and surveyed five fore and aft sail covers. Received from the Storeship "Monongahela" the following stores; ...4000 lb bread -

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Merid. to 4. P.M.
Threw overboard 4000lb bread received to day from "Monongahela", condemned by board of survey -

[Randi]

Ungrateful wretch!

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[espross]

Ungrateful wretch!

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I don't see that the Monongahela recorded transferring 4000 lbs (or any, for that matter) bread to the Shenandoah!

They do record "80 Bags Buiscuit"--so if the Bags are 50 lbs. each that makes a nice round 4000 lbs. I don't suppose there's a reference guide to US Navy ship provisioning from the period...is there?

[Randi]

I wondered about that too.
I am guessing that was the 80 bags biscuits

[Randi]

Ratings and the Evolution of Jobs in the Navy (Search for Cooks)
and
General Mess Manual and Cook Book, U. S. Navy 1902
are interesting, but not terribly helpful for this case of bread vs. biscuits.

[Michael]

:I just imagine them loading the bags on one side, and then throwing them overboard on the other!

[espross]

USS Shenandoah, 1886-04-05, at anchor in Panama, U.S.C.

Lost overboard: One paintbrush
Which idiot? D.J. Hagan, who had been in trouble before
Punishment? 2 days Extra duty

[Randi]

I kind of like the "stupidity or wilful neglect" by the second person on the list..

[arboggs]

"Shoes in lucky bag" is pretty great. That's a real "it made sense in my head until I said it" excuse.

[Randi]

Lucky bag The lucky bag is also defined as a where loose items from a ship are stored until being returned to the owner. According to the 1940 edition of the Blue Jackets' Manual (a handbook for U.S. Navy enlisted personnel), "The lucky bag is a place where the police petty officers stow for safe-keeping effects that are found adrift about the ship. All clothes, etc., found about the decks are placed in the lucky bag. When clothes are piped down, the police petty officer attends and takes care of all clothes not called for and places these in the lucky bag. All effects in this bag belong to the person who lost them. At frequent intervals the lucky bag is opened and the effects distributed to the owners. Where persons have been guilty of carelessness in leaving their effects adrift, they are placed on the report." According to the log of the USS Yosemite, on June 24, 1898 several sailors were given 72 hours extra duty for having an article in the lucky bag. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Bag
[AND]
The Lucky Bag is a practice still followed on some school ships. We had a 'gear adrift' locker for such things - one could retrieve items at any time, but on field day (cleaning day) anything left there would be auctioned for a song (or other performance) with preference for the actual owner. Socks not so much but foulies commanded a high price, especially on northbound voyages. [krwood]

[arboggs]

I meant more like the shoes being in the bag is not a good excuse to be shoe-less.

[Randi]

Indeed, a bad excuse!

[espross]

And this...



...is the sort of fellow that took your shoes and got you into trouble in the first place!

Navy Uniforms: Men's Tropical White, CHIEF PETTY Officer. 1984 Uniform Regulations, Page 5-19

[espross]

USS Shenandoah, at sea making passage from San Jose Guatemala to Payta [Paita] Peru, 1886-04-23...

Board of Survey condemned 324 lbs dried cod-fish, and 168 lbs sugar cured bacon and same thrown overboard by order of Com'd'g Officer.

[Randi]

USS Lakawanna

August 18th
At 6.10 the Port chain parted, losing the Port anchor and 13 fms of chain

Searched until the 23th when the ship went surveying.
Returned from surveying on the 26th and resumed search on the 27th.
On the 28th we were busy with other things.

August 29th
A reward of One Hundred ($100) Dollars was offered for the recovery of the anchor, and Twenty five ($25) Dollars if seen and not recovered.

On the 30th we left minus our port anchor.

[Michael]

[Randi]

I just read mushed crew at quarters although it clearly said mustered crew at quarters.
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Clearly time for bed

[pommystuart]

Maybe not, you mush dogs and the crew could be old salty dogs.