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The first part of March is complete.
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March is complete. Still sitting outside the harbor at Montevideo.
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The April 15 page makes extensive use of the weather symbol "z".

I had seen it used in a single entry on one prior page and thought it must be some other symbol that was just illegible since there was nothing on the event page to indicate what it might be. So I transcribed it with "~".

However, the event page on this day says that the weather was hazy. So it appears that they are using "z" to indicate hazy and I have transcribed it as a "z" even though it is not one of the symbols listed in the log keeping instructions. I added a transcriber comment to the page explaining this.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorag ... 30-036.JPG
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Weather, sea, and ice terminology lists a log book that has z for hazy: https://s3.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorag ... 5_0002.jpg

The data is 1908-1909, but 1906 is printed at the bottom of the page.

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I guess they were just ahead of their time. I had looked at the log keeping instructions at the start of the log book in which it was used and "z" was not shown there. It said to use "m" for misty or hazy weather. It makes sense to have a different symbol though.

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April is complete. Still anchored outside the harbor at Montevideo.
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ggordon wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:53 pm April is complete. Still anchored outside the harbor at Montevideo.
Ditto May

This is getting boring. 🥱
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:D :D :D
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Wake up. The ship is moving!!!

On June 9th the ship left Montevideo headed in the direction of Buenos Aires.
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The ship arrived the next morning, June 10, at Buenos Aires. I transcribed this page a couple days ago and already saved to xml.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorag ... 30-093.JPG

However, there were two bearings given for the location once anchored, which were both problematic. I did some research and included a couple of transcriber comments that I thought might help.

Last night I remembered that I have a new friend in Buenos Aires whom I met through another forum and asked if she might be able to help. She provided feedback that I wanted to make available to Michael for when he processes this log.

The first location was the Customs House. The current Customs House was built in 1910, but the previous one was built in 1855 and the sources I found indicated that it was the same building as Casa Rosada, the primary government administrative building for Argentina. However, Anabel said that that Customs House was in the same building complex, but located a few blocks to the south of Casa Rosada and provided this link to a site giving the history of Buenos Aires Customs Houses. The site is in Spanish, but Google translate does a great job converting to English.

http://www.arcondebuenosaires.com.ar/aduana_taylor.htm

The other location in question was Quilmers Tower. Quilmers likely should be Quilmes, a city just to the south of Buenos Aires. I was unable to find any reference to a tower in the area and Anabel was unaware of anything around there that at the time that would have been considered a tower. She said that at that time Quilmes referred to the area from the current city down to about 100 km south at what is now La Plata. I thought that it might be the Catedral de Quilmes and she said that she found a reference to a clock being installed in the tower of a small church in Quilmes in 1881. She gave me this link to the site which gives the early history of Quilmes, which is interesting, but nothing else about anything that might be considered a tower.

https://elquilmero.blogspot.com/2013/01 ... -1666.html
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:) :) :) :) :) Great work!!!!!
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