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by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:12 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: General shipyard page. Ice sections now completed.
Replies: 5
Views: 7222

General shipyard page. Ice sections now completed.

The ice sections of the voyage of the Mary and Helen from 9 September 1879 to 12 October 1880 have been completed. Thank you all! Once all ice sections of the log list have been completed we will return to the non-ice sections. You can find more ships in this listing: Find your ship, & the full...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:02 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: General shipyard page. Ice sections now completed.
Replies: 5
Views: 7222

General shipyard page. Ice sections now completed.

The basic principle of OldWeather Whaling.... The reason for this project is that it is very hard to automatically sort the navigation and ice (and other specific items) from blocks of text in the hand-written log books. Having those details pulled out and associated by line with date/time/position...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:06 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Log pages for transcribing - apply here!
Replies: 0
Views: 951

Log pages for transcribing - apply here!

Welcome to the log book of the Mary and Helen 1879-1880 If you would like to work on a section of the log please leave a note in the next available reply section of this board below remember to say which section you would like to work on a link to the workbook, for your transcriptions, will be prov...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:56 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Handwriting help, and spelling
Replies: 1
Views: 856

Re: Handwriting help, and spelling

AvastMH wrote:Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:51 pm Mary and Helen Jan 9th & 10th 1880

The log keeper's capital 'W' is similar to the capital 'N'
The W has sharp points at the base, the N as a soft turn at the end of the last vertical:

Image

In time order: WNW ; W ; W ; NW ; WNW
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:55 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Handwriting help, and spelling
Replies: 1
Views: 856

Handwriting help, and spelling

Each log writer is likely to have a peculiar writing style and spelling system. In the most exaggerated cases the spelling of one word may vary even in the entry for one day. If you find oddities please do post them here to help other viewers working with this project. Help with images If you want t...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:50 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

Mary & Helen Crew List: Anyone Cabara 33 of Sao Nicolau, Cape Verde John Duarte 22 of Sao Miguel, Azores George Suza 22 of Sao Jorge, Azores Charles E. Healy 18 of Sandwich Henry Valentine 23 of Portland, CT James Brown 22 of Portland Frank Houghes 22 of North Easton M.V.B. Millard 41 of North ...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:48 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

Log Book Section C: Ships met Date Time Remarks 18800502 Latter Part Progress, John Howland, Rainbow, Norman, Tom Pope (Thomas Pope) Commenced John Howland 18800505 Commenced Sea Breeze, Norman, Abrm Marker, Dawn, Progress 18800505 Latter Part Hidalgo 18800506 Commenced Sea Breeze, Norman 18800510 ...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:25 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

Log Book Section C: Crew and people met Date Time Remarks 18800410 James Parker shipped at this Port Honolulu deserted this day Apr 10th 1880 18800411 Found a Stowaway on board named Charles Tompson Capt has agreed to give him green hands pay Signed by Charles tomson witnesses Frank Reynolds Burman...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:22 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

and next day 11 April 1880 a stowaway was found https://i.imgur.com/xwh57tj.gif I checked up on the pay for a 'green hand' (no - I'm not thinking of applying for the post! ;) ). Whalers were paid by the 'lay' which meant a portion of the profits. Green hands could expect to get at least 1/200th. Ap...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:21 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

The Releif is mentioned in the M&H logs for July 23 1880 - Spoke the Releif vessel from San Francisco . There is also mention of missing ships 9 & 11 June 1880 spoke barks Sea Breeze, Helen Mar and Rainbow got tidings of the missing ships natives came on board but no tideings of the missing...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:20 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

The Mary and Helen visited Honolulu in April 1880, and the crew appear to have 1/2 day at liberty ashore. There was a deserter on 10 April 1880 https://i.imgur.com/rcrx7uc.gif and next day 11 April 1880 a stowaway was found https://i.imgur.com/xwh57tj.gif A month later they get a 4th mate (https://...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:19 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

The Releif is mentioned in the M&H logs for July 23 1880 - Spoke the Releif vessel from San Francisco . There is also mention of missing ships 9 & 11 June 1880 spoke barks Sea Breeze, Helen Mar and Rainbow got tidings of the missing ships natives came on board but no tideings of the missing...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

US Cutter Relief mentioned in the Lolita rescue on Sept 17th 1880 'The Schooner Julia A Long sailed to day for St Lawrence Isle At 6 AM got under weigh for St Lawrence Isle with 3 men from wrecked Schooner Loleta and Left J My Coff US Rev Relief also towed out of Plover Bay US Schooner Yukon' https...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:15 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

When lives are at risk the whaling comes second... News that the Lolita has run ashore on St Lawrence Isle arrives at Plover Bay, and so the Mary and Helen, on September 14th 1880 https://i.imgur.com/9aoT9iK.png The next couple of days a gale moves through Plover Bay. By Friday 17th Sept 1880 the w...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:11 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

A piece of one-up-man-ship... Mary and Helen has had a good season (27 whales) so good that she has to get additional help from the Alaska to stow oil.... Wednesday Sept 8th 1880 'employed in boiling and coopering hired a cooper from schooner "Alaska"' https://i.imgur.com/Bs5EjKJ.png
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:09 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

Randi wrote:Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:19 pm Great find!
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:08 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

Even better, read about Leander's son here - page 33 https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=5H-tBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=leander+owen+history&source=bl&ots=1bkQX7Le2w&sig=ACfU3U20WJNreQjfm9G7-9SZnhYDbr3jNg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjil-DH-oThAhUCtHEKHd0MBgAQ6AEwBXoE...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:08 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

and here's Leander Owen and Martin Millard who were the masters of the Mary and Helen http://www.explorenorth.com/library/yafeatures/bl-keenan.htm I took the liberty of copying the picture for us. It's an amazing photo. I reel at the thought of the things that they have seen, and the hardships endu...
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:01 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

SPHolmes wrote:Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:35 pm and here's Leander Owen and Martin Millard who were the masters of the Mary and Helen

http://www.explorenorth.com/library/yaf ... keenan.htm
by AvastMH
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:00 pm
Forum: Mary and Helen 1879-1880
Topic: Crew and ships met
Replies: 17
Views: 2902

Re: Crew and ships met

Wow! That's a great post - thank you! I looked at the link and discovered that the reason why his name was ringing such a bell, and I hadn't spotted this - is that he does appear at least twice in my logbook manifest list. We will be doing the North Star 1881-1882 journey! NBWM North Star ODHS 223 ...

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